View Full Version : Another day, another big Obama speech
This one on Iraq:
Obama Delivers Speech on 5th Anniversary of Iraq War (http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGBFrl)
scroll down a bit to "as prepared for delivery" for the full text of the speech. It's not as long as the scroll-bar might make you think, easily 90% of the tail-end contents of the page is blog comment (worshipful blog comment, it being the official Obama site).
BrettStah
03-19-2008, 08:45 PM
Link to listen to the speech:
http://news14.com/Video/video_pop.aspx?vids=64162,64163,64174,64178&sid=1&rid=94
RegBarc
03-19-2008, 09:57 PM
I remember when Barbaro was poised to win the Preakness. Everyone loved him here in Philadelphia. Hell, we hadn't had out sports teams win anything in decades so the city was pretty desperate. Then, at the Preakness, he fell and broke a leg. He was put to sleep some months later.
When he died, the news sites and horse racing sites were abound with the most absolutely nidiculous comments just gushing over him. It really was the most absurd fucking thing I have seen in my entire life. Crap like (http://news.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/01/29/barbaro-is-euthanized-after-struggle-with-injury/#comment-35025), "I love you so much and I can’t stop crying. You were NOT just a horse - YOU were SPECIAL - a Gift from God to all of us!" and bullshit like (http://news.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/01/29/barbaro-is-euthanized-after-struggle-with-injury/#comment-35016), "I fell in love with Barbaro the first time I saw him on TV, couldn’t wait for the exercise rider to let him gallop, bucking and dancing. I smiled and then quickly wrote to my friends about him. The night of the Preakness I was sick with worry. Now that he’s gone I can’t bear that we won’t get to just see him hanging around, grazing, just being himself. I miss his racing, but more I just miss him. God bless and keep him."
It's insane. People become so enamored with something, they don't just support that thing, nor do they just defend that thing. They outright deify that thing. The people crying and balling over Barbaro had outstanding, unresolved mental health disorders.
What scares me about Obama's supporters is that the normal, rational ones will be lost/overshadowed amongst the Obama supporters that are the ones akin to Barbaro supporters. The rabid, foaming at the mouth, unbelieveably obsessed Obamaramaites seem to be the stardard, instead of the fringe exception. Every campaign has the outstanding problem of rabid supporters. But it seems the same problem that plauged Ron Paul is starting to creep up on Obama now. I was reading the Metro this morning, and the picture associated with the story of Obama in Philadelphia was of his supporters near where he was staying and one of them had this huge life-sized caricature drawing of him they made.
Not that Ron Paul ever stood a decent shot in this election anyway; but his rabid supporters helped nothing. Obama's rabid supporters are a liability, not just a reflection of how much people love him.
doom1701
03-19-2008, 10:20 PM
Dang it, I'm tired, and this "I like the guy but I feel this strange urge to debate about him" stuff is hard work.
Can't he shut up for a freakin' day or two, and let me rest?
grondramb
03-19-2008, 10:49 PM
Dang it, I'm tired, and this "I like the guy but I feel this strange urge to debate about him" stuff is hard work.
Can't he shut up for a freakin' day or two, and let me rest?
Well Hillary seems intent on getting to keep talking
From Clinton, new pressure for a revote in Michigan
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DETROIT (http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/03/20/america/20delegates.php#): With plans for new primaries in Florida and Michigan in limbo, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton challenged Senator Barack Obama on Wednesday to accept at least a new contest in Michigan, arguing that he should match his "words with action" because a civil rights principle was at stake.
What scares me about Obama's supporters is that the normal, rational ones will be lost/overshadowed amongst the Obama supporters that are the ones akin to Barbaro supporters. The rabid, foaming at the mouth, unbelieveably obsessed Obamaramaites seem to be the stardard, instead of the fringe exception. My first reaction is "and the various books absolutely fawning over George, The Right Man for the Right Time I think was one of them - those didn't bother you?"
But let me go with my second reaction - dude, what has that got to do with Obama's speech about Iraq? You know, the subject of my thread?
heySkippy
03-20-2008, 07:58 AM
But let me go with my second reaction - dude, what has that got to do with Obama's speech about Iraq? You know, the subject of my thread?
That was my first reaction. I think Reg posted in the wrong thread.
But let me go with my second reaction - dude, what has that got to do with Obama's speech about Iraq? You know, the subject of my thread?
That was my first reaction. I think Reg posted in the wrong thread.It's possible he was responding to the aside I made in the OP, that the blog comments section on Obama's site where the speech of the text is would be "worshipful". I haven't read it, but I expect it comes off that way.
Maybe I oughta start a new thread to discuss the Obama-mania thing in...
[edit] done: Obama mania (http://www.mainsquare.org/showthread.php?t=3599) thread.
grondramb
03-20-2008, 12:24 PM
But let me go with my second reaction - dude, what has that got to do with Obama's speech about Iraq? You know, the subject of my thread?
That was my first reaction. I think Reg posted in the wrong thread.
Its not that big a stretch to go from a thread about a big Obama speech to commenting on reactions to Obama by his supporters.
But I'm always up for a pile-on to punish thread drift! Darn you RegBarc!
RegBarc
03-20-2008, 05:59 PM
But let me go with my second reaction - dude, what has that got to do with Obama's speech about Iraq? You know, the subject of my thread?
That was my first reaction. I think Reg posted in the wrong thread.
But let me go with my second reaction - dude, what has that got to do with Obama's speech about Iraq? You know, the subject of my thread?
That was my first reaction. I think Reg posted in the wrong thread.It's possible he was responding to the aside I made in the OP, that the blog comments section on Obama's site where the speech of the text is would be "worshipful". I haven't read it, but I expect it comes off that way.
Maybe I oughta start a new thread to discuss the Obama-mania thing in...
[edit] done: Obama mania (http://www.mainsquare.org/showthread.php?t=3599) thread.
What scares me about Obama's supporters is that the normal, rational ones will be lost/overshadowed amongst the Obama supporters that are the ones akin to Barbaro supporters. The rabid, foaming at the mouth, unbelieveably obsessed Obamaramaites seem to be the stardard, instead of the fringe exception. My first reaction is "and the various books absolutely fawning over George, The Right Man for the Right Time I think was one of them - those didn't bother you?"
But let me go with my second reaction - dude, what has that got to do with Obama's speech about Iraq? You know, the subject of my thread?
Yep, the aside about the worshipful comment thing.
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